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September 25th, 2012 Michael Feldman

Apple is currently the most valuable company in the world with their shares nearly topping $700/share so it’s no wonder that there’s lots of buzz about Apple products.  When it comes to realtime (aka LiveNote), recently we’ve had more and more requests from attorneys to deliver realtime on a Mac, iPad, iPhone or even Android tablets and phones.  Until recently, the options to do this were very limited, but that is rapidly changing.

If I can give one single piece of advice for attorneys to successfully use a non PC based device such as Apple products to receive a realtime feed, it is this:

ATTORNEYS: IF YOU WANT TO USE A NON PC BASED DEVICE SUCH AS AN APPLE PRODUCT FOR A REALTIME SESSION, BE SURE TO LET YOUR COURT REPORTING COMPANY KNOW 24-48 HOURS IN ADVANCE AND YOU WILL DRAMATICALLY IMPROVE YOUR CHANCES OF MAKING IT HAPPEN.

This is because, while realtime on Apple products can be done, behind the scenes, it requires sourcing a court reporter with the correct software/hardware configuration, and that doesn’t just happen at the job.

Here’s the deal on realtime for Apple products. First of all, if you want to use LiveNote on an Apple device such as a Mac or iPad, you are pretty much out of luck, unless you do some really fancy stuff – which I am not going to get into here, but for all intents and purposes, it’s not practical and isn’t happening.  I know Thompson Reuters, makers of Case NoteBook and West LiveNote, are hard at work on something, but currently, it cannot be done.

The two leading solutions allowing attorneys to receive a realtime feed on non PC based devices such as Apple devices are iCVNet and LiveDeposition.  Both of these solutions are supplied by the court reporters\/court reporting agencies.  Attorneys, the ONLY thing you need to do is let the court reporting agency know in advance that you want to receive your realtime feed on an Apple device, and assuming they know what they are doing, they will take care of the rest.

Let’s start with iCVNet, which is made by Stenograph, an industry leader that makes the software know as Case CATalyst, which court reporters pair with their stenograph machines to essentially make their transcripts and make realtime happen.  Some of you may have heard of CaseViewNet, which is a realtime viewer that many court reporters supply on their loaner laptops instead of LiveNote.  iCVNet is also made by Stenograph   In layman terms, iCVNet is CaseViewNet (CVN) designed specifically for the iPad.   The good news is iCVNet is really cool, but it ONLY works on iPads, not other tablets on the market, not Macs, and currently there is no Android app either.

So, if you bring your iPad to the deposition, a court reporter using the most recent version of Case CATalyst from Stenograph can simply download and install the iCVNet app from the Apple App Store on your iPad at the job and you are on your way, even wirelessly, way cool.  Or better yet, you can go to the app store and install iCVNet on your iPad for free.

Here’s the complicated part, the bad news is not all court reporters use Stenograph software, there are competitors, and not all court reporters have the most recent version of Case CATalyst, which is what is needed to write realtime to an iPad using iCVNet.   And this is why I gave you the single most important piece of advice above, which is: give your court reporting agency notice that you want to use an Apple product for realtime and they will be able to assign a court reporter who has the proper setup.   If you wait until the job, it is a crap shoot as to whether or not the court reporter assigned to your job will have this setup.

Another technology that is making waves is LiveDeposition, not to be confused with West LiveNote’s LiveNote Stream, which is a competing offering to LiveDeposition.  Both solutions allow anyone with proper credentials to securely access and view the realtime feed from anywhere in the world simply with an Internet connection.  LiveDeposition plays nice with PC’s, Apple products including Apple’s Safari browser and the iPad and Android products.  LiveNote Stream is only supported on PC’s and ONLY works on Microsoft’s Internet Explorer browser.  With LiveDeposition, you can view realtime feeds either at the job location and/or remotely on any device, including Macs, iPads, iPhones and even other tablets and smart phones such as Android enabled devices, now that’s really, really cool.

Disclaimer:  There are other solutions for realtime feeds to non PC based devices on the market, but these are currently two of the most widely used.  And remember, if you want to use any device OTHER than your Microsoft Windows based laptop or PC for realtime, be sure to let your court reporting company know 24-48 hours in advance and you will be doing yourself a world of good.  Happy realtiming!



4 Responses to “Realtime for the iPad.”

  1. Sandy Bunch VanderPol says:

    Good advice. Thank you. As a realtime reporter, it’s exciting to see the enthusiasm by counsel for our realtime product via the tablet, specifically iPad. We realtime reporters are experiencing that counsel now prefer to use their on iPad for viewing realtime, thus we now have less to carry around to depositions. However, I still carry the netbooks and now an iPad.

    I do believe that MyView is making headway in the realtime app market. All CAT systems, except CATalyst are compatible with MyVIew. Bridge protocol is being used by Advantage, and most CAT vendors have adopted this protocol.

    Thanks again for sharing your sage advice.

  2. James Woitalla says:

    You forgot the original iPad realtime product, MyView, from Advantage Software, and you’ll need an Eclipse court reporter to provide realtime to that product. Free download from the Apple store as well.

  3. Holly Thuman says:

    Great advice regarding letting the court reporting firm know in advance that you want to view realtime on an iPad. But please don’t forget that many of us are using MyView to provide this service. Free app available from Advantage Software. I believe there is already (or soon will be) an Android version.

  4. All the CAT systems are compatible with Streamtext, which is the way CART providers have been providing streaming realtime to mobile devices for years.

    My experience has been that many attorneys in realtime settings want to watch the text stream but don’t actually use any of the features of LiveNote or other litigation support programs during the proceedings. They can access streamtext without worrying about firewalls, too.

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